Showing posts with label habeas corpus. Show all posts
Showing posts with label habeas corpus. Show all posts
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
Cheney Conundrum
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Cheney Conundrum: Dick's latest media foray could be his last (that is, before his attorneys and handlers clamp a Denver Boot on his tongue...) and its making us ask the question; "Just how dumb is he?" and, further, "Just how dumb are we?". Boy, some of us just aren't grasping the Cheney Conundrum - and that means the heavy hitters like Keith-O, Rachel, Chris Matthews and more... Or maybe we just missed a report from David Corn or Chris Hayes (we like Chris...). JoeNBC seems a little too quiet, maybe he gets it...Joe is, after all, conservative...but still a professional...
GET IT? Get what? You may ask. What Countdown has aired on the primetime (last night AND the night before...) is video of apparently Dick Cheney stepping on his own...er, sword...and possibly foisting himself on it. How? By the tacit admission that he supported *enhanced interrogation techniques (i.e., waterboarding) and some other potential war crimes. We - try to momentarily forget that we are leftofleftliberalefties - firmly believe that he has really set himself up here and just about every other high-level persons-of-interest in the former Bush Administration for war crimes prosecution or violations of the Geneva Convention.
Further, these "confessions" were obtained from a person who apparently was not tortured nor subjected to waterboarding nor *EITs. Yet, this person has apparently put himself and others of his ilk in jeopardy of a war crimes trial (or military tribunal) - with possible punishments and fines and other sanctions. Therefore, by his own administration's "definitions" he has made himself a war criminal, or loosely defined, a bit of a terrorist himself. Yet, his confession(s) and/or admissions were obtained without mention of habeas corpus, without rendition (extraordinary or otherwise), without restraint, without punishment, without military detention, without EITs, without waterboarding and without torture. The man has clearly given us information without benefit of his own tightly adhered-to embrace of EIT and other illogical means of extracting confessions and/or verdicts. Without delay. Without restriction. With freedom of speech and liberties guaranteed under a Constitution and Bill of Rights that his kind appear to have willingly usurped.
Lets try this again. This man Cheney was not waterboarded, nor subjected to any form of EIT that we know of. Nor is he under threat of such or any physical harm or torture. Yet he appears to have willingly admitted and/or confessed to "terroristic" forms of war crimes and tortures by himself and by his own members of his administration. Now isn't that extraordinary? Its extraordinary that a proponent of extrajudicial means of obtaining punishments and extreme measures need not have been subjected to them now nor in the past nor in the future. Its extaordinary that he is going around town promoting such means live and on-air.
In other words, he's just contradicting himself. Over and over and over. He's a living walking contradiction. And an alleged war criminal. Its supremely ironic. The man has publicly disproven his own argument of what he stands for and continues to support. The man is running rings around himself logically. Yet, here he be. He exists despite himself. He should have collapsed into a black hole of irony by now. Or at the very least, the Bush Administration should appear out of a wormhole and render him unto a secret POW camp in the past. Which is where they should be.
Get it yet?
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FOM: Cheney's Costly Mistake , It Came from the Veep and Paradix or Dickundrum.
Updated/Revised: Wednesday, February 17, 2010
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Friday, May 22, 2009
A Memorial Day Posting and More For Friday, May 22, 2009
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a remembrance poppy outside the Suur Rannavärav (Great Coastal Gate)" licensed under Creative Commons by Anosmia
We find this Memorial Day weekend confusing, surreal, consequential, ambiguous and somewhat, well, cold... Our fingers and hands are cold and our minds are slightly numb as we write this posting just a couple of days before Memorial Day.
Ironically, some of our editors, just like many other good folks, will be reporting for unemployment, food aid, food stamps, medical assistance and possibly other kinds of assistance. Just like so many of you. How much more should we lament our war dead knowing that they fought - and died - for our freedom - and our right to fend off starvation and so on by lining up at the public dole? They deserve so much more honor than this. We think they are deserving of a more-than-glorious fate for their country and the other free countries of the world. We do not think that this is exactly what they fought and died for. It is - it seems - just a substitute. They may have and fought and died - indeed, some are right now - for a substitute set of freedoms.
Some things have changed since some of them have died. Like the right of Habeas Corpus. They died for substitutes for habeas corpus. They have died for Habeas Corpus longinquus detineo, Suspensus Habeas Corpus and Extensus Habeas Corpus. They might have died so that our enemies (and theirs) and some innocents might experience ‘Prolonged detention’ and even 'Borderline Torture'. It seems they might have died for a corruption of their original values. A corruption brought about by some of their descendants. Somehow, we think, that has put less value on the lives we lost and never really knew. It makes the loss and losses doubly tragic. There is no joy in writing this - not even for us. It makes us sick to our craw, in some cases. But, there is still some honor left. So, we continue to write. You too, can continue to fight for what they died for. We think these words - which could be our last words - might touch and penetrate even the hardest of hearts. Well, some, not all.
The honored and glorious dead fought and died so that some of us could go on to live in freedom - glorious freedom. Instead, we are visiting the local food bank - or the next nearest one. Or in some cases, our community is closing the local food bank. Some of them are selling their vehicles - and leaving on their feet. Some are losing their homes - and moving into tents or shelters. Many have lost their jobs and paychecks and pensions and funds and so much else. We have misspent so much of our money - their money. We have misspent our lives - and possibly theirs. The next double-tragedy concerns those who have lost awareness of this weekend and its meaning. For many, this weekend means a struggle to remain clothed, fed and sheltered. We are still struggling to be free - and we have no choice.
Things should be looking up - getting better - better for all of us. We are so sorry to report that we don't think it is. We are so sorry to report that the battle may be lost - but we will still have the enemy suffer a renewed policy of prolonged detention. We have given up just a few of our rights this weekend with them - and possibly some innocent victims. Yet we have demagogues, pundits, others and even our leaders (!) roving around making speeches about why this was done and what it accomplished. Good sirs and ladies, we say to you, your accomplishments mean nothing in the eyes of the Lord. Your accomplishments are so far of no meaning to us. They are just piles of dirty rags in the eyes of the Lord and in our eyes. If anything, you have given us a shared vision. A downcast, dejected, shoddy vision of what is now a pile of junk and scrap that is too far gone to be reused and recycled again and again.
Our apologies. We have gone off and off-topic. We were going to do some compare and contrast stuff between the President's national security speech (of yesterday) as analyzed on various channels. Then we remembered - oh, its Memorial Day weekend! And then we remembered what is truly important. And we remembered.
Hijacking Clicks On The Internet
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/22/tech/cnettechnews/main5033555.shtml
Clickjacking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickjacking
U.S. state seeks laid-off traders to teach math
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre54l2w1-us-financial-traders-teachers/
Arrests in Chinese slavery case
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8063038.stm
Pope on Facebook in attempt to woo young believers
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre54l3as-us-pope-facebook/
Toddler buys earthmover in online auction
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30885324/
References: ‘Prolonged detention’ , Rachel, Habeas Corpus, National security showdown, Countdown, House, Senate refuse to close Gitmo, Andrea Mitchell, Suspensus Habeas Corpus and Extensus Habeas Corpus.
a remembrance poppy outside the Suur Rannavärav (Great Coastal Gate)" licensed under Creative Commons by AnosmiaWe find this Memorial Day weekend confusing, surreal, consequential, ambiguous and somewhat, well, cold... Our fingers and hands are cold and our minds are slightly numb as we write this posting just a couple of days before Memorial Day.
Ironically, some of our editors, just like many other good folks, will be reporting for unemployment, food aid, food stamps, medical assistance and possibly other kinds of assistance. Just like so many of you. How much more should we lament our war dead knowing that they fought - and died - for our freedom - and our right to fend off starvation and so on by lining up at the public dole? They deserve so much more honor than this. We think they are deserving of a more-than-glorious fate for their country and the other free countries of the world. We do not think that this is exactly what they fought and died for. It is - it seems - just a substitute. They may have and fought and died - indeed, some are right now - for a substitute set of freedoms.
Some things have changed since some of them have died. Like the right of Habeas Corpus. They died for substitutes for habeas corpus. They have died for Habeas Corpus longinquus detineo, Suspensus Habeas Corpus and Extensus Habeas Corpus. They might have died so that our enemies (and theirs) and some innocents might experience ‘Prolonged detention’ and even 'Borderline Torture'. It seems they might have died for a corruption of their original values. A corruption brought about by some of their descendants. Somehow, we think, that has put less value on the lives we lost and never really knew. It makes the loss and losses doubly tragic. There is no joy in writing this - not even for us. It makes us sick to our craw, in some cases. But, there is still some honor left. So, we continue to write. You too, can continue to fight for what they died for. We think these words - which could be our last words - might touch and penetrate even the hardest of hearts. Well, some, not all.
The honored and glorious dead fought and died so that some of us could go on to live in freedom - glorious freedom. Instead, we are visiting the local food bank - or the next nearest one. Or in some cases, our community is closing the local food bank. Some of them are selling their vehicles - and leaving on their feet. Some are losing their homes - and moving into tents or shelters. Many have lost their jobs and paychecks and pensions and funds and so much else. We have misspent so much of our money - their money. We have misspent our lives - and possibly theirs. The next double-tragedy concerns those who have lost awareness of this weekend and its meaning. For many, this weekend means a struggle to remain clothed, fed and sheltered. We are still struggling to be free - and we have no choice.
Things should be looking up - getting better - better for all of us. We are so sorry to report that we don't think it is. We are so sorry to report that the battle may be lost - but we will still have the enemy suffer a renewed policy of prolonged detention. We have given up just a few of our rights this weekend with them - and possibly some innocent victims. Yet we have demagogues, pundits, others and even our leaders (!) roving around making speeches about why this was done and what it accomplished. Good sirs and ladies, we say to you, your accomplishments mean nothing in the eyes of the Lord. Your accomplishments are so far of no meaning to us. They are just piles of dirty rags in the eyes of the Lord and in our eyes. If anything, you have given us a shared vision. A downcast, dejected, shoddy vision of what is now a pile of junk and scrap that is too far gone to be reused and recycled again and again.
Our apologies. We have gone off and off-topic. We were going to do some compare and contrast stuff between the President's national security speech (of yesterday) as analyzed on various channels. Then we remembered - oh, its Memorial Day weekend! And then we remembered what is truly important. And we remembered.
US CO2 goals 'to be compromised'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8061929.stm
Steven Chu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu
Pirate Attack On U.S. Cargo Ship Thwarted
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/22/national/main5033068.shtml
Gregory analyzes Cheney, Obama speeches
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/30884765#30884765
David Gregory
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3688588/
On Gitmo, Gates Stands By Obama
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/22/politics/main5033366.shtml
‘Prolonged detention’ (from Rachel)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/30877514#30877514
Rachel
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/
Habeas Corpus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
Habeas Corpus longinquus detineo
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/habeas-corpus-longinquus-detineo.html
Cold Fuzzy
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/non-warm-fuzzies.html
Suspensus Habeas Corpus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8061929.stm
Steven Chu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu
Pirate Attack On U.S. Cargo Ship Thwarted
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/22/national/main5033068.shtml
Gregory analyzes Cheney, Obama speeches
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/30884765#30884765
David Gregory
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3688588/
On Gitmo, Gates Stands By Obama
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/22/politics/main5033366.shtml
‘Prolonged detention’ (from Rachel)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/30877514#30877514
Rachel
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/
Habeas Corpus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus
Habeas Corpus longinquus detineo
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/habeas-corpus-longinquus-detineo.html
Cold Fuzzy
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/non-warm-fuzzies.html
Suspensus Habeas Corpus
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/suspensus-habeas-corpus.html
Extensus Habeas Corpus
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/extensus-habeas-corpus.html
O-POD
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/o-pod-or-i-pod-or-f-pod.html
National security showdown [Countdown’s sanitized (?)version of ‘Prolonged detention’?]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/30876960#30876960
Countdown
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
‘Borderline’ torture OK’d? (from Rachel)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/30877760#30877760
House, Senate refuse to close Gitmo (from Andrea Mitchell)
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Andrea Mitchell
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29974370/
Cigarette companies lose appeal in landmark ruling
http://www.yahoo.com/s/1075254
Swine flu will keep spreading globally: WHO chief
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/22/swine-flu-who.html
Swine flu genes circulated undetected for years
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30886851/
CDC to swimmers: Don't pee in the pool!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/22/pools.urinate.hygiene/index.html
CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/
Face Protection Effective In Preventing The Spread Of Influenza, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090520161332.htm
New Vaccine Strategy Might Offer Protection Against Pandemic Influenza Strains
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090518120954.htm
Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization For Flu, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm
Safe For Passengers With Lung Disease To Travel By Air, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519075418.htm
New credit card limitations in US
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8063108.stm
Newsweek: Why can't we all get bailouts?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/198771
When Beggars Make House Calls
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7648488
Obama plans more open government
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8063040.stm
Computer virus hits U.S. Marshals, FBI
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30882735/
Extensus Habeas Corpus
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/extensus-habeas-corpus.html
O-POD
http://antizendictionary.blogspot.com/2009/05/o-pod-or-i-pod-or-f-pod.html
National security showdown [Countdown’s sanitized (?)version of ‘Prolonged detention’?]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/30876960#30876960
Countdown
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
‘Borderline’ torture OK’d? (from Rachel)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/30877760#30877760
House, Senate refuse to close Gitmo (from Andrea Mitchell)
javascript:vPlayer('30848916','98e27608-2370-45a3-b8d9-a310e6cb4d64')
Andrea Mitchell
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29974370/
Cigarette companies lose appeal in landmark ruling
http://www.yahoo.com/s/1075254
Swine flu will keep spreading globally: WHO chief
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/22/swine-flu-who.html
Swine flu genes circulated undetected for years
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30886851/
CDC to swimmers: Don't pee in the pool!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/22/pools.urinate.hygiene/index.html
CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/
Face Protection Effective In Preventing The Spread Of Influenza, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090520161332.htm
New Vaccine Strategy Might Offer Protection Against Pandemic Influenza Strains
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090518120954.htm
Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization For Flu, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm
Safe For Passengers With Lung Disease To Travel By Air, Study Suggests
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519075418.htm
New credit card limitations in US
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8063108.stm
Newsweek: Why can't we all get bailouts?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/198771
When Beggars Make House Calls
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7648488
Obama plans more open government
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8063040.stm
Computer virus hits U.S. Marshals, FBI
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30882735/
Hijacking Clicks On The Internet
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/22/tech/cnettechnews/main5033555.shtml
Clickjacking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickjacking
U.S. state seeks laid-off traders to teach math
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre54l2w1-us-financial-traders-teachers/
Arrests in Chinese slavery case
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8063038.stm
Pope on Facebook in attempt to woo young believers
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre54l3as-us-pope-facebook/
Toddler buys earthmover in online auction
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30885324/
References: ‘Prolonged detention’ , Rachel, Habeas Corpus, National security showdown, Countdown, House, Senate refuse to close Gitmo, Andrea Mitchell, Suspensus Habeas Corpus and Extensus Habeas Corpus.
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Wednesday, December 5, 2007
Historic Exception Proves the Rule - Gitmo Detention is Illegal

Supreme Court showdown on detainees
“The US Supreme Court is holding a hearing on Wednesday in two cases that are being seen as a legal showdown over the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba.
“The US Supreme Court is holding a hearing on Wednesday in two cases that are being seen as a legal showdown over the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba.
A 17th Century example
However another, more ghostly, figure will also feature in the case.
This is Edward Hyde, Earl of Clarendon, who was one of Charles II's henchmen after the restoration of the monarchy in England in the 17th Century. Briefs for both sides in the Supreme Court hearing mention his activities.
Clarendon set up his own Guantanamo Bay, believed to have been in Jersey, in the hope that his prisoners could be kept away from the courts and in particular from the right of habeas corpus. This is an ancient procedure in which a court can order someone holding a prisoner to bring him or her to court to justify the detention”. BBC NEWS
You know, we don't like terrorists. But, until they can be legally proven to be terrorists - or other criminals - they still have rights, don't they? Click on this link Supreme Court showdown on detainees.
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